A conspiracy at the Census bureau - Sally
by Robert Hedges ©


Sally Snyder

On many occasions I have heard Robert Hedges make grunting noise or a growl. On Saturday, Oct 27, while I was working in the library, he walked up to me and just looked. He then grabbed a paper off the table and walked past me. He then began to grunt and mumble something. Around September 5th Robert followed me from work. On that day I didn't leave work until 5-10 minutes past my normal time. When I walked outside to my car most of the traffic had left the parking lot. I got in my car and began driving. When I approached the gate leaving the parking lot I looked in my rear view mirror and Robert was behind me. Although I was just still leaving work, it made me very uncomfortable. I knew that he lived in Louisville, so I expected him to at least follow me to the bridge. Well, this man frightened me such a great deal that instead of going home, I stopped by Thornton's, on 10th street. I thought maybe I was just being paranoid. As I was turning into the store, I looked in my mirror and did not see him. I got out of my car, started walking to the store window when I heard a small screeching noise, turned around to see what had happened, when I saw it was Robert stopping suddenly right behind my car. Automatically I became very scared. He then walked up behind me and started grunting and then mumbled something. I did not even acknowledge that he was there. He was standing just inches from me. I grabbed my cigarettes off the counter and ran back to my car. I knew that he was following me now. I didn't want to drive home for fear that he would find out where I lived. As I got back in my car, he jumped in his. Instead of taking a left on 10th street, which is my normal route, I took a right to try and discourage him from following me. He took a right behind me also. The only thing running through my mind was a police station and not to let him get side by side with me. I had no idea where the police station was. I began driving faster, and hit my 'breaks' and took a right onto a side street. As I quickly turned my car around so that I could take a left back on 10th street he was just turning. The traffic let me through and left him stuck on the side street. As my heart pounded I continuously checked behind me. I was terrified that he would find where I lived. The next day as soon as I arrived at work, I reported it to my supervisor, Judy Van Gelder. Robert never said anything to me about the incident. I was very afraid of this man and tried to discourage him from taking to me. When he would talk to me he would say that his family was trying to take his money and that they tried to put him in a mental hospital. He would also say that we should feel sorry for people in prison. Society made them and him the way they are.

Linda Childress told him " if a person makes a mistake, they have to pay for it. " She also told Robert "you are trying to blame all of your problems on society, when you are the one that made you and who you were. You take a choice on what you become and only you should make that choice". Robert began laughing and walked off. On another occasion around the middle of September, one of the women I worked with asked me about my boyfriend, as I was describing my boyfriend to her. Robert approached the conversation and said " Don't get married, a married woman is an unhappy woman" All of these comments he has made to me I just ignore. On October 28th, while I was working in the library, my co-worker and I were having a conversation. Robert walked up to me and said, "the prettier the woman, the bigger the ego". I didn't understand the statement, but Sheri Underwood apparently did and said that that wasn't true. He again began to laugh and walk off. 15 minutes after that occurred, Robin Gelbach and myself went on the dock to eat lunch. Robert was sitting at a picnic table about 5 yards away. As Robert approached our table, sat down, looked at me and said " what would you do if I heard your name on the radio?" This terrified me. He has said that if he hears your name on his radio that you disappear. I have always thought that he was very unusual but tried to be friendly while working. I had heard him say things like this to Susie Scull, Kathleen Breedlove but I never took him seriously. When he said this to me I felt like it was a direct threat. This scared me. I grabbed my food, stood up and told him that I had heard about you and your crazy radio and I don't want to hear anymore. I began walking to another table when he left and returned to his. As I went to sit back down with Robin, he said "fortunately I heard it on someone else's radio, not mine." He just grinned. I went in and reported it to my supervisor. When I saw my supervisor, Judy Van Gelder, I was shaking, had tears in my eyes, and could barely talk. I explained the situation to her. This man made a direct threat to me. Because of this incident on Sunday, I left at 5:00 instead of 5:30 hoping that Robert would not have a chance to follow me. Sunday evening, I thought a great deal about the situation. Monday, October 29th, I called in sick. I did not feel real well, but also I did not feel real bad. I did not know how I could discourage from making any other suggestions toward me. I was afraid that my supervisor may tell him that he has been turned in or something. I was afraid that I might get stuck in a tight situation with Robert and I did not know what I might do. I should not be afraid of this man finding out where I live. This man has made me feel afraid to stay home alone or go anywhere by myself. I don't know if he thinks he is being funny, but I am terrified.

Sally Snyder - 30 October 1990
I would like this to be used for any investigation


Robert Hedges responds:

I have seen Sally Snyder away from the census bureau only once. A Friday in June I needed some gasoline and stopped on 10th St. at 4:10 (PM after work) to fuel up. I never see her leave the parking lot, or enter the building, as we do not seem to park near the same areas. I usually drive south on I-65.

Linda Childress had begun a discource on prisons with her stating that she intended to go to a women's prison to speak on marriage. These out of context phrases include discussions of why, etc. I will discuss this topic at length if the need arises.

Sally Snyder was vocally planning a wedding, and I said "great" . I never discussed the topic with her at all. Incidentally, when she said she planned to marry some guy, we were working under a "previous administration." Judy Van Gelder's earlier lead clerk. This has been some time ago.

Sunday, October 28. I spoke up that "pretty women" have egos too" as the conversation about male ego evolved from Sally Snyder's discourse and diatride about someone harassing her at a dance she and Robin attended. She described someone who asked her to dance in derrogatory terms, describing how unpleasant it was to have his male flattery, and (she) began a Psychology 101 analysis of male ego (from a female viewpoint) Someone else was harassing her last weekend, and now it is me "suddenly" but also (it is me) over an extended perios of time. BUNK

I never suggested her name is, was has been or will be brodcasted. The topic of people disappearing has never arisen before.

I have no further comments on this paranoia or fantasy or series of lies.

Also - to claim illness to avoid work based on assertions such as this, or leave to avoid self-imposed stress is in my way of thinking - malingering.

{{ You'll notice that most of the above is sally thought . . . sally said . . . sally didn't say . . . .she told me . . . . sally felt . .}}

{{ Linda Childress (no complaint) was describing how she visited the Pee Wee Valley Women's Prison, and talked with prisoners on a certain Sunday. After she described her Sunday activities, I asked her why she would want to associate with prisoners. It is my belief that wanting to associate with powerless people is caused by some internal desire to feel superior to those powerless people. The single prison-oriented conversation with Linda Childress (from June/July 1990) is loosely based on my firm well-founded set of beliefs. }}

{{ Kathleen Breedlove (no complaint) asked me where I was when I missed work due to being arrested, and I explained that the radio had broadcasted several names . . . . and I felt a need to find the facts about these broadcasts . . . and that I was arrested . . . and the state employees who are paid a salary had not enlightened me. Also I may have explained that someone had disappeared from the Toy Tiger night club, who was last known to have been seen where I later began working nights. (BP Store). What ever loony rumor these girls turned the facts into is a product of their own imagination. }}


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